2025-02-25 · auto-analysis (draft)

The Man Who Invented Prompt Engineering on AI, AGI & Humanoids w/ Richard Socher & Salim Ismail

The conversation revolves around the launch of Grock 3, its performance compared to other AI models, and the rapid advancements in AI technology. Richard Socher discusses the capabilities and benchmarking of AI models while Peter Diamandis emphasizes the importance of evaluating AI models using human IQ tests. The podcast discusses benchmarks in AI, the definition and progress towards AGI, the role of physical manipulation in intelligence, and the future of open source AI. The conversation focuses on the role of AI in driving scientific breakthroughs, particularly in medicine and longevity, and discusses strategies for future-proofing AI platforms. The conversation covers the application of AI in medicine, quantum computing, material science, and health and longevity, highlighting the potential of these technologies to revolutionize various fields. The podcast discusses the future of AI

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Topics

AI AI ▶ 2:05
Discussion on the launch of Grock 3 and its performance compared to other AI models.
Exponential Technologies AI ▶ 2:59
Peter Diamandis discusses the rapid progress in AI with exponential technologies.
Model Benchmarking AI ▶ 3:20
Richard Socher and Saleem Ismail discuss the benchmarking of Grock 3 against other AI models.
AI Model Development AI ▶ 4:05
Richard Socher discusses the development and capabilities of AI models like Grock 3 and Anthropic's models.
AGI AI ▶ 10:44
Discussion on the definition and progress towards AGI.
Open Source AI AI ▶ 15:07
Discussion on the open versus closed AI debate and the future of open source AI.
Robotics Robotics ▶ 14:31
Discussion on the role of physical manipulation in intelligence and the development of humanoid robots.
AI in Science AI|Science ▶ 22:00
Richard Socher and Salim Ismail discuss how AI will drive scientific breakthroughs and potentially lead to significant advancements in fields like medicine and longevity.
AI Platforms and Future Proofing AI|Tech ▶ 17:30
Richard Socher discusses u.com's approach to building a trust layer and future-proofing AI platforms to protect companies from being locked into outdated models.
AI in Medicine AI|Health ▶ 23:25
Richard Socher and Salim Ismail discuss the potential for AI to accelerate biomedical research and potentially double human lifespan in the next decade.
Protein Folding and AI AI|Science ▶ 25:00
Richard Socher shares insights on how AI can understand the language of proteins and its implications for medicine and longevity research.
Quantum Computing AI ▶ 29:01
Quantum computing breakthroughs are expected to revolutionize computing and potentially prove the existence of a multiverse.
Material Science Material Sciences ▶ 28:04
Material science is highlighted as a key area for AI-driven innovation, with the potential for room-temperature superconductors.
Health and Longevity Health ▶ 32:35
Health and longevity are discussed, with emphasis on using AI for early disease detection and personalized health management.

Predictions made

open Richard Socher: We might see an AI model with an IQ of 150 in the future.
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“is that a relevant measure you know IQ has like a lot of different dimensions I think intelligence overall has a lot of different dimensions which we briefly talked at our fii uh conference uh conversation um I I don't know if it makes sense to just boil it down to this one number uh”
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open Richard Socher: Open source is gaining and will continue to do so in the long term.
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“it is very hard to compete with that in the long term the more Niche you are the more Technic it is the fewer people can appreciate using that technology”
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open Dario Amodei: We will see a century of biomedical research in the next 5 to 10 years, potentially doubling the human lifespan.
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“we're going to see a century worth of biomedical research in the next 5 to 10 years”
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open Unknown: Quantum computers will enable the simulation of more complex physical realities.
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“anything you can simulate, AI can solve pretty much every problem that domain.”
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open Richard Socher: Training can be done very inexpensively in the future, with more focus on inference.
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“training can be done very inexpensively and then you've spent a lot more time on inference and”
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open Salim Ismail: High valuations of AI startups are risky and may lead to a bubble.
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“I think we're we're headed for a pretty big bubble on as we as we get to the application side of this because”
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open Unknown: There will be a lot of cool use cases for humanoid robots, but it's not a zero-sum game.
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“I would totally buy a humanoid robot to have stuff be done in my house and just kind of clean and they can do it at night right so they don't have to be super fast and uh now the fourth comment is I feel like everyone works on AI version of Robotics it's like the original Terminator no one works on a T1000 and one of my many ideas is actually to build a T1000 like robot and I have a bunch of ideas I recently like jammed on with a really brilliant Hardware hacker and he's like you know this could actually work and make sense so project number five um if I have some oh you heard it here folks Jim Cameron was right and it's all going to be due to Richard choser um I gotta I gotta say something here um you know if you want a muscular skeleton humanoid robot you get a man and a woman and you have a baby and you grow the baby I mean I I really struggle with this like if you know we talked earlier right if you want a dishwasher you have a machine that that sprays water in a particular way and it looks like a box and you have trays to put dishes in whatever oh same with a vacuum cleaner why and to the point that Richard just made it's so much more powerful to have wheels on the legs etc etc why are we constantly going to the human form which is frankly we we have we about this drives me nuts you're just wrong it's I'm Richard the argument we've had is I kind of say if you're going to build a robot have one with seven arms that can do much many more things like why make it look like a human well any move”
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open Unknown: There will be a lot of robot announcements in the near future.
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“we have a lot of robot announcements uh this week so let me let me continue on here next up is Neo's Gamma so you know listen I think this looks pretty damn cool I mean this is uh you know in terms of its motions now how stage this is and uh how practiced you know we don't see the 37,000 shots that went wrong but uh that looks like a pretty friendly home robot you know one of the questions I ask everybody is how many will you own you know I when I interviewed Elon and Brett's the CEO we'll see him in a minute CEO of of figure and of course Elon overseas Tesla and Tesla bot now called Optimus the projection is as many as 10 billion robots by 2024 and I can imagine that I have no problems imagining I would own uh you know two or three maybe 10 Sim no not you you you know my struggle with this I mean one robot moving very quickly is is the same as seven of them and again why does it have to look like a human being it would be much better with wheels and seven arms uh you making coffee at so so I strugg I think I think we I think I feel more comfortable having you know a humanoid robot walking around the house than some strange looking Contraption I think we're going to end up with the problem in the same way with virtual reality with the uncanny valley where it's very disconcerting I think we're going to have the same thing with human art robots for sure and like there sci-fi kind of uh is is underrated and showing us sometimes also the like the positive ways like um you know people will fall in love with their robots and they have these Androids now I think with short term uh we're going to have to we're going to see a lot of folks just uh remote controlling a robot collecting training data that way and so there's going to be an part of The Uncanny Valley is you may have someone in uh India or somewhere sitting looking into your entire home being able to navigate everything seeing your kids opening your doors and everything uh and you kind of have to be okay with that invasion of privacy potentially right um and then once they get good enough then they could be faster I mean they could put on like wheels and like you know shoes with wheels on and then you know and attach another arm if you really want them to uh you know they can be more modular that way so I'm I'm excited for it all right so that was Neo's Gamma from 1X T”
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open Unknown: AI and robotics will use less secure but more frequent transactions for certain applications.
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“as you get closer to the end use where you need less security”
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open Unknown: The future of cryptocurrencies is encouraging, with the response to the Bitfinex hack.
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“I'm really encouraged by the response from Benia and the byit folks saying we're going to just not navigate all this uh we're going to keep everybody whole and the fact that they had enough backup to do this in general”
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open Unknown: The usability of cryptocurrencies will improve significantly, making them more accessible to the general public.
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“when a technology goes from deceptive to disruptive uh the usability becomes much 10x 100x better”
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open Unknown: AI agents will eventually be able to take more actions for users, such as booking flights.
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“they start booking flights and things like that”
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